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The spiders are the least of your worries. It's the snakes & goannas that are the real problem as they move very very fast when upset. Anyhow it's only the non locals that usually have problems....

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I imagine the lobbyists will just get their bribery budgets increased and ACTA will proceed as normal (in secret).

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Also game censorship, as they ban anything which would need a rating that is over 15+ And they also recently banned small breasts in porn, even if the person is in her late twenties....

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Did anyone else notice the the soud of crickets...

from TAM?

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"Anyhow it's only the non locals that usually have problems. The locals are brought up to be careful when in most situations that might reveal wildlife that's out to harm you." Yeah, cos it worked out...

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Didn't expect such complete victory for iiNet

The court even awarded ISP's legal costs to be paid by the applicants, that's pretty massive. From memory iiNet spent in the vicinity of AU$4M for their defence. I expect some hardcore lobbying for the...

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Re: Did anyone else notice the the soud of crickets...

When your principled position is comprised on a bedrock of sand, it's kind of difficult to argue against the inevitable.

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Justice Cowdroy found iiNet users had infringed copyright by downloading films on BitTorrent, but he found that the number of infringers was far less than alleged by AFACT I think this is the most...

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Umm, he "chooses to do nothing" because the lawsuit was about the ISP, who isn't doing anything wrong. ...except in your fantasy land.

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Anyone want to bet that the ACTA push gets stronger?

Maybe I'm a bit paranoid, but I think that this is what will happen.

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Hey, don't attack his fantasy land! He needs a happy place to go so he can feel that injustice is being done and false blame being placed somewhere regardless of if its based in reality or imagination...

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Neat

"AFACT will spend the next few days deciding whether to appeal," AFACT -v- iiNet "RIAA will decide in the next few days whether to appeal" riaa -v- tenenbaum etc, etc And slowly the tides will turn or...

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it seems to me that this judge understands that bittorrent is just a communication protocol (a computer to computer standard) much like http or ftp. iow, a tool, and how folks use that tool is up to...

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I'm from Australia, I love all the talk on here about snakes and spiders etc. The fact is yes we have deadly animals but they don't really bother us day to day. I guess we are bought up with spiders...

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I think this is the most interesting - the judge can see the infringing, but chooses to do nothing. Uh, no. The judge sees the infringement AND sees that it's the users infringing, not the ISP. Odd...

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Bitchslap!

Slap! Slap!

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Yeah, and if I see a murder, it doesn't mean I get to arrest the first Joe-Schmoe I stumble across. Apparently TAM wants people to be liable for crimes they had no involvement in. Always nice to know...

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"I think this is the most interesting - the judge can see the infringing, but chooses to do nothing." Keye Luke voice "No no craphopper .. You misunderstand. The judge saw the infringing, and he...

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Re: Didn't expect such complete victory for iiNet

It's standard to award legal costs to the winner - you can't read anything in to that. Also this is just round 1 of what could be a 3 round contest. Winner takes all.

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Purveyors of BT clients at this time may not be particularly enamored with the decision as it seems to suggest they may bear some measure of liability under Australian law. It is not clear the extent...

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Nothing gets the blood pumping like stumbling out of the bedroom on Sunday morning and finding a three-foot Brown Snake curled up on the family room floor. Problem was, being Sunday the snake-catcher...

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Agreed. I have suffered more pain from wasps and bees than the native fauna. I've been here 38 years, and in the wild, seen one funnel web (they're scarily aggro nutters), no snakes, no blue-ringed...

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Connect the dots

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Haha! That's awesome! Let's make that post viral. Everyone needs to see it, complete with tag. :D

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No, I don't gloss over the fact. I can only think of a bodega owner that allows people to sell drugs out of his store. At some point, the police will come and not only arrest the drug dealers, but they...

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If you think that the ISP had no part at all in the infringement, absolutely 0% influence on it, then you are right. But gee, without the internet connection.... ;)

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Where as if I ran across the issue, I would simply pick up the nearest firearm, and not bother the snake catcher on Sunday morning.

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I have seen bears within a couple of miles of my house, but unlike the ones that live in the tourist areas of national parks, they pretty much stay away from inhabited areas. Wolves are just getting...

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Without the hand, thou canst not physically steal. But America still opposes cutting off shoplifter's hands, for some reason...

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Stealing or sharing?

@ Anti-Mike, I'm impressed at your command of Paint (Photoshop is way over your 'expertise'). Taking Mike's picture and doing a reverse and flip is really an amazing task for a computer-challenged...

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Youre missing the point the ISP has no power and no obligation under australian law to prevent copyright infringement. A private commercial entity is conducting its own "investigations" and then...

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Re: Did anyone else notice the the soud of crickets...

Who cares

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I think that is in the ACTA

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Re: Stealing or sharing?

Send him a pre-settlement letter

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Ok, lets put your theory to another similar situation. So what you are saying is that if a guy is selling drugs from his apartment, then the apartment owners and the managers should go to jail too....

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what the hell Australia? make up your damn mind whether you are going to be for or against your citizens. This kind of teasing isn't fair!

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Ok, lets put your theory to another similar situation. So what you are saying is that if a guy is selling drugs from his apartment, then the apartment owners and the managers should go to jail too....

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"Here's my question - was that stealing? or sharing?" Well, clearly, its theft. He STOLE Mike's pic, had the gall to CHANGE it, amd then, THEN, in a final coup de grace F-U to rights holders...

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Honestly, sometimes I don't even think you read the crap you're spewing.

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But gee, without the computer... Sue the manufacturer! But gee, without the web browser... Sue its developers! But gee, without an OS... Sue! Oh, don't forget to sue search engines! Also, the creator...

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But gee, without the internet connection.... ;) tam-tam fails again. (classic pr/lobbyist language: first agree, then hint at the opposite of your agenda, denigrating it so that by implication your...

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Yeah, but some judge in America called copyright infringement stealing so that's true. And Trent Reznor called it stealing and he's a rock star, so that has to be true as well.

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> But gee, without the internet connection.... ;) You're stopping a bit short... first sue the people running the power grid... because: But gee, without the electricity.... ;)

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No, you're wrong too. We should actually be suing the movie industry, because... "But gee, without the movies to pirate in the first place..."

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I'll be sure to forward any lawsuits against you to your mother. After all, if she'd never given birth to you.... ;)

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Great

Damn good show, sport! Pity the ruling doesn't apply globally. Might have taken some steam out of Mandy's digital economy bill here in the UK, which should be cut off at the knees. Still, a test case...

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Still no quite sure how to react to how people veiw us Aussies lol...

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I spose typing "veiw" didn't help... D:

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@Johnno Such ignorance is astonishing. Australia is most certainly NOT the most "over taxed" nor the most "over goverened". "over taxed": According to the OECD, they are not even in the top 10,...

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